Comments on: Lesnar an embarrassment at UFC 100 http://www.prowrestlingviews.com/2009/07/13/lesnar-an-embarrassment-at-ufc-100/ YOU'RE FIRED! -Vince McMahon Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:45:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: admin http://www.prowrestlingviews.com/2009/07/13/lesnar-an-embarrassment-at-ufc-100/comment-page-1/#comment-416 admin Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:13:50 +0000 http://www.prowrestlingviews.com/?p=347#comment-416 Hmm, and here I thought the UFC was very image-conscious about not going "over the top like the WWE." Even Dana White reprimanded Lesnar. This has to be the most ill-informed self-justification I've read in a while. Even White, the UFC owner, felt sportsmanship was lacking in Lesnar. So, sorry, but no... NOT good for Lesnar and NOT good for UFC. Even White says so. Hmm, and here I thought the UFC was very image-conscious about not going “over the top like the WWE.” Even Dana White reprimanded Lesnar. This has to be the most ill-informed self-justification I’ve read in a while. Even White, the UFC owner, felt sportsmanship was lacking in Lesnar. So, sorry, but no… NOT good for Lesnar and NOT good for UFC. Even White says so.

]]> By: BJJ http://www.prowrestlingviews.com/2009/07/13/lesnar-an-embarrassment-at-ufc-100/comment-page-1/#comment-413 BJJ Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:59:50 +0000 http://www.prowrestlingviews.com/?p=347#comment-413 Lesnar gets so amped up before his fight that it carries over to his behavior afterward. You know what? Good for him! All I care about is who's fighting Lesnar next. This talk about bad behavior????? C'mon, this is the UFC. Lesnar is good for MMA, a little controversy never hurt. Want proof? Check the Pay Per View buys for Lesnar's next fight. Lesnar gets so amped up before his fight that it carries over to his behavior afterward. You know what? Good for him!

All I care about is who’s fighting Lesnar next. This talk about bad behavior????? C’mon, this is the UFC. Lesnar is good for MMA, a little controversy never hurt. Want proof? Check the Pay Per View buys for Lesnar’s next fight.

]]> By: Tank http://www.prowrestlingviews.com/2009/07/13/lesnar-an-embarrassment-at-ufc-100/comment-page-1/#comment-393 Tank Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:23:44 +0000 http://www.prowrestlingviews.com/?p=347#comment-393 I agree that Lesnar's behavior was embarassing, but only the actions that took place after the match was over. I disagree with you that his actions during the match, and the actions of Dan Henderson during his bout with Michael Bisping, were unsportsmanlike. In the UFC, as well as PRIDE and other MMA organizations, fighters fight until the referee stops the fight. During the Henderson-Bisping fight, while clear to us as spectators that Bisping was knocked out from the first blow, from a fighter's perspective in the ring he does not know whether the opponent is stunned yet able to continue, and in many fights you will see a fighter who looks as if they are knocked out manage to regain their composure and finish the fight. The fans are always quick to complain loudly when they feel a fight has been stopped prematurely, and that, I believe, has led the UFC to allow fighting to continue until there is no question about the outcome. In this particular case, I believe the referee was attempting to stop the fight but was not able to act prior to the final strike being landed. In the Lesnar-Mir fight, Lesnar had Mir in a similar situation in the first round, landing multiple punches to Mir's face, yet Mir gave his corner the "thumbs up" multiple times. Even at the end of the fight, it was difficult to see if he was actually incapacitated, or simply taking damage in the position he was in. In hindsight, you could say that either fight could have been stopped quicker, however I don't believe you can fault either fighter for continuing until the referee stops the action. Again, however, I completely and wholeheartedly agree that Lesnar's behavior after the fight was an embarrassment. I understand he has provided a video apology (at the insistence of Dana White) but have not been able to view the video yet. Lesnar has some amazing physical ability, and is learning the fight game quickly. He has the potential to become a great champion of the sport, but this won't happen until he understands the nature and importance of sportsmanship in MMA competition. I agree that Lesnar’s behavior was embarassing, but only the actions that took place after the match was over. I disagree with you that his actions during the match, and the actions of Dan Henderson during his bout with Michael Bisping, were unsportsmanlike.

In the UFC, as well as PRIDE and other MMA organizations, fighters fight until the referee stops the fight.

During the Henderson-Bisping fight, while clear to us as spectators that Bisping was knocked out from the first blow, from a fighter’s perspective in the ring he does not know whether the opponent is stunned yet able to continue, and in many fights you will see a fighter who looks as if they are knocked out manage to regain their composure and finish the fight. The fans are always quick to complain loudly when they feel a fight has been stopped prematurely, and that, I believe, has led the UFC to allow fighting to continue until there is no question about the outcome. In this particular case, I believe the referee was attempting to stop the fight but was not able to act prior to the final strike being landed.

In the Lesnar-Mir fight, Lesnar had Mir in a similar situation in the first round, landing multiple punches to Mir’s face, yet Mir gave his corner the “thumbs up” multiple times. Even at the end of the fight, it was difficult to see if he was actually incapacitated, or simply taking damage in the position he was in.

In hindsight, you could say that either fight could have been stopped quicker, however I don’t believe you can fault either fighter for continuing until the referee stops the action.

Again, however, I completely and wholeheartedly agree that Lesnar’s behavior after the fight was an embarrassment. I understand he has provided a video apology (at the insistence of Dana White) but have not been able to view the video yet. Lesnar has some amazing physical ability, and is learning the fight game quickly. He has the potential to become a great champion of the sport, but this won’t happen until he understands the nature and importance of sportsmanship in MMA competition.

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